Last month, Hillsong worship leader Brooke Ligertwood was asked at Vous Conference 2018 about the inspiration for her songwriting.

“Songs are like poo,” Ligertwood told Rich Wilkerson, Jr., who was conducting the interview. “Whatever you feed yourself, is what’s going to come out. You could say life is like that. Scripture is the answer to that. Songs are not only like poo, but songs are almost like the ground that’s fertilized by the manure of life.”

Questionable phrasing here. The sentiment is strong—your songwriting is affected by the music you hear and the Scripture you read and the things you think about—but man, what a metaphor to drop (no pun intended) in front of the crowd.

Ligertwood went on to explain that life is messy (hence, the manure), but that manure fertilizes the wisdom and urgency of songwriting. “I think that all of that manure, in all of its stench and warmth is a fertilizer for songs,” she said.

Look, who are we to argue? Hillsong is the biggest worship band in the world. They must be doing something right with this philosophy.