Gospel music star Kirk Franklin was recently a guest on Beats 1 radio, and in his interview he shared some revealing details about his relationship with Kanye West.

West has received some attention as of late for his weekly “Sunday Service” praise gatherings, in which the hip hop mogul gathers other musicians and influencers for a few hours of gospel-adjacent worship music, some guest preaching and Scripture reading. Franklin says he believes West’s motives behind Sunday Service are pure.

“Let that be his medicine, he ain’t making no loot doing it,” Franklin said.  “You could always tell intent by how people spend their money. How people spend their money is a reflection of their heart. And so the fact that this is something that he’s doing on his own, let that be his medicine.”

Franklin also explained how Kanye approached him to collaborate on the song “Ultralight Beam,” a gospel-tinged track off his 2016 album The Life of Pablo. Franklin also encouraged believers to give Kanye grace as the rapper continues his ongoing spiritual journey.

You can see the interview below.