On Tuesday Nick Foles sat down with Ellen DeGeneres to talk about his experience returning to football and ultimately winning the Super Bowl with the Eagles as a backup quarterback. He had a lot to say about his path back to the game.

Nick Foles’ first run in the NFL was only marginally successful. He had one game in which he threw seven touchdowns, but his early career was marked by losing and failure. He was ready to quit, but he says his wife and his faith pushed him back toward the game.

“It was paralyzing to go back and play. I prayed about it, and I realized I was afraid. I would’ve been fine going a different way. I would’ve helped people any which way possible, but I knew to make more growth I had to go back in and face that fear and face my failures,” Foles told Ellen.

The Super Bowl MVP went on to say God didn’t meet him in the way he expected: “And there was no ‘aha’ moment. When I took a step in that faith, I still thought this was going to be tough.”

When Foles returned, however, he remembers feeling a love for the game again, and it shook him. He realized the Lord was responding to his stepping back out: “I always read the Bible in the morning. I remember crying because I loved the game of football again, but it was a totally different feeling because of what I had gone through. As athletes, we have failures and issues just like anyone else, but I think that’s what makes us strong is overcoming those failures.”

You can watch Foles’ full interview here.