Best-selling author and Redeemer Presbyterian Church founder Tim Keller was recently a guest on Mike Huckabee’s TBN show to discuss his new book The Prodigal Prophet: Jonah and the Mystery of God’s Mercy.

During the discussion about the lessons that the Biblical story of Jonah can teach us, Keller discussed the idea of judgement.

Quoting Francis Schaeffer, Keller said, “If you preach judgement without tears, you don’t have Jesus’ spirit.” He explained how Jesus delivered messages of judgement with compassion, and how God “doesn’t enjoy judging people.” He added, “We’re not supposed to enjoy condemning people.” 

The whole interview (embedded above) is worth the watch.