Recently, President Trump invited several high-profile black pastors and faith leaders to the White House to discuss prison reform. One of those leaders was Relentless Church pastor and popular speaker John Gray.

Since the meeting, he and some of the other leaders have received criticism from people who say that meeting with Trump sends mixed messages about some of the president’s more polarizing comments about race.

Pastor Gray went on Don Lemon’s CNN show to talk about his decision to take the meeting, and things got contentious. Gray said: “I can only speak for me. With everything that I could have lost, and could still lose, I believe that my voice was necessary because I was there for people who could not fight for themselves.”

You can watch the whole exchange below:

Pastor John Gray on Meeting with President Trump

"I can only speak for me. With everything that I could have lost, and could still lose, I believe that my voice was necessary because I was there for people who could not fight for themselves." – Pastor John Gray responds to backlash following a meeting with President Trump during which he says he intended to hear more about prison reform https://cnn.it/2KnHQU3

Posted by Don Lemon CNN on Thursday, August 2, 2018