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Author and Elevation Church pastor Steven Furtick recently shared some interesting thoughts about doubt.

In a message titled “The Benefit of the Doubt,” Furtick said that even he encounters doubt when reading the Bible—and that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

He said:

I have my doubts. I read that whom the Son sets free is free indeed but sometimes I feel bound by stuff. I have my doubts. Is that alright? Do you need to find another church now that you know that the dude with the mic has some doubts? …

I meet these people and they say things to me, because of my profession I guess, they make assumptions about me, because there’s a ‘Rev.’ in front of my name. They make assumptions about me that I don’t have real doubts.

He went on to explain that just because he—any Christian—encounters doubts when reading scripture, it doesn’t mean that his faith is at risk. It actually means he’s growing in it. He explained: “For me, faith has never been the absence of doubt. Faith is not the absence of doubt; it is the means to overcome it.”

He later said: “If you don’t doubt [the Bible], you’re not reading it or you’re reading it with no intent to live it. See my doubt is the evidence of my growth. The closer I get, the more questions I have.”

You can see more of the message below.