The wait is over. In the inaugural episode of The Faith Angle podcast, Kirsten and Jonathan share how they met and why they believe this kind of conversation is needed now more than ever. They discuss why America is so divided right now—including a new Pew Research poll—and how conservative evangelicals’ support for Donald Trump has become a point of conversation in American media.

The Faith Angle duo also talk with Eric Metaxas, best-selling author and prominent Trump supporter, who makes some surprising comments, including offering an apology for some of his controversial comments.