On today’s show, the Rev. Samuel Rodriguez discusses overcoming life’s most difficult chapters and his new book Shake Free.

The gang also hears the new single from Lecrae, discusses Apple’s new “digital wellness” features, learns about Ashton Kutcher’s fight to save children and finds out what can go wrong at a pre-planned, mandatory revival.


  1. Chris Quilala, “The Length of the Cross”
  2. Maggie Rogers, “Fallingwater”
  3. Janine, “Too Late”