Evangelicalism has an image problem. Today, many see it as nothing more than a cover for white republicanism and as a result, they are leaving the movement. Is a mass exodus warranted or should principled dissenters stay and work for change? Kirsten and Jonathan interview Christopher Stroop, one of the leaders of the evangelical movement who started the popular #emptythepews hashtag, and Lisa Sharon Harper, an author and activist who is still holding onto the “evangelical” label despite the movement’s flaws.