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Episode 10: Jay and Katherine Wolf on How Church Leaders Should Address Suffering and Hardships


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From the makers of RELEVANT Magazine, Called is a podcast for church leaders featuring conversations with influential pastors, thinkers and leaders. Each week, we’ll be tackling issues that people in ministry deal with on a daily basis—from soul care and protecting our leaders’ marriages to looking at the art of the sermon to navigating politics in the pulpit and more.

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